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27 January, 2010 - 11:04 — Adam Purski
Hello. Adam Purski here.
I'm having a bit of trouble with my Audio Device, called F-Control Audio FCA202 Firewire Interface.
I brought a new laptop, HP Pavilion dv6 Series. I am using, for OS, Windows 7. I installed the driver for FCA202. I tried to play some music on Windows Media Player. But it did not work. I installed the Sonar 7 Producer Edition. I opened one of my projects and played it, and it did play with sounds coming threw my speakers which is connected up to the Mix board to the FCA202. One thing to add, first I connect everything up before turning the laptop on. All the connections are on, but when I start windows, the "starting up" sounds doesn't go threw the whole connection to the Speakers. It is still coming from the laptops built-in speakers. But one thing is for sure that I can still record and hear playback. But it's just my entertainment (games etc...) that needs sounds coming threw my studio speakers. Not the Laptop built-in speakers. Rofl.
Need help please.
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I'm on an XP computer, but I know Win7 well enough. I'm gonna double check this stuff on a win7 laptop in a few hours. The only things I can think of, are:
1) Go to control panel and click the "sounds and audio devices" icon. Go to the Audio tab and see if you can change the default devices to the FCA (another reason I like the uca better is because its native in windows. No need to use any drivers other than asio4all)
2)Fuck windows media player! Fuck it long, fuck it hard! I'm pretty much anti-apple (don't ask... it has to do with principle), and even I would rather use iTunes. The player I use is AIMP 2. They have, in the options (press CTRL+P), at the top, its the very first thing... a playback option with a drop down to select your audio device. Just choose your audio device like you would in audition or sonar. The have everything WMP has, and more... and its better, and faster and more awesomer. If this were the 80's it would be totally radical dude! Cowabunga! Hell I just figured out it has the best media manager I've ever used. I just added all my music on three different hard drives in one motion. Seriously, I think the problem is WMP, because it sucks flaccid wrinkly old man dick.
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
I forgot to add that i am with Windows 7.
A.M.P
Rofl. I just read your whole comment then. Lol xD I'll download AIMP 2.
A.M.P
I installed AIMP 2. I went into options. Onto the Playback section. Selected my FCA202 under Sound devices. Clicked apply. After i clicked it says "can't find a free sound driver"
A.M.P
I'm gonna download i Tunes, and try that out.
A.M.P
You know what I just found out. The FCA202 is incompatible with Windows 7. Yet another reason I recommend the UCA202 or even better, the newer version, the UCA222. The UCA222 is functionally the same as the the UCA202, except its red and built a little more rugged. It also boasts lower latency than the 202, but my 202 was fast as hell! (It only had a 4-10ms latency. The 222 boasts 2-8ms... oooo.... 2ms difference! I can totally tell! Meh.) I recommend the 222 over the 202, simply because its more well built. My 202's cord was intermittent for a while, until I spliced it back together. But that could have just been my rough handling of the unit. The UCA202 needs no drivers other than ASIO4ALL for low latency. Its cheaper and the response and quality from the FCA is only marginally better. And it works with all versions of windows except the 64-bit Vista (No behringer product works with Vista 64-bit) Here's my source: http://www.rainrecording.com/windows-watch/behringer
Sorry Adam. But it looks like its either a new OS (XP> Not Vista. DO NOT INSTALL VISTA!!!!) or a new audio interface for you if you want to do more than record with the FCA202. I've heard bad things about the FCA202 and windows. From XP to Win7. It works extremely well with the mac, but not a PC. So many bad things that, musiciansfriend.com stopped carrying it. They're the biggest online music outlet in the US. That says something. Here's a link to the UCA202, and its from an Australian online music equipment store! http://www.billyhydemusic.com.au/shop/view/4180/behringer-usb-audio-inte... Go me, for not linking a "ship-to-North-America-only" site! Now these UCA202's are only 30 bucks US over here, so that leads me to believe Billy Hyde is a pricey ass outfit. After doing a currency exchange calculation they're $36.75 more than they are here in the states. That's $36.75 more Australian. Good news though! Amazon.com has 'em way cheaper and they ship to Australia! They also have the UCA222!! The UCA202 is $33.25 and the UCA222 is $44.25 (This is all in Aus dollars... I have a converter up and running right now.) Shipping is about $16 to $20 (again, in Aus. $$), so even with international shipping you will pay less money than Billy Hyde. Why did I even link to them?!? Here's the amazon links. And, both the 202 and 222 will ship to you. I checked them thru international shipping on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UCA222-U-Control-Ultra-Low-Interface/dp/... <--UCA222
http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UCA202-U-Control-Audio-Interface/dp/B000... <-- UCA202
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
personally buying a HP was your first mistake....lol....I seem to have problems with HPs.......but really reloading soft ware may do the trick....
I spent like hundreds of dollars for this laptop, now everyone's saying this is the problem. FCA202 is incompatible with Windows 7. And I'm not gonna down grade it. I'm just gonna have to buy another interface that IS compatible with Windows 7. Something like UCA222
A.M.P
Doc do you know any Audio Interfaces that have FireWire?
A.M.P
Yeah but they're like $200... and that's US$ not Aus$. I'm gonna tell you that the 202 or 222 is your most economical choice. Cop one from amazon homey! Unless you can find one in a store for cheaper, that's the cheapest price I've seen online for either one of those. Even if the shipping is like 15-20 bucks, its still cheaper than that billy hyde fuck shit site! lol!! After a quick look most firewire interfaces are not fully compatible with Win7. But Phonic's are... check out this one.: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Phonic-FIREFLY-202-Portable... Here's their download page. It has all the win7 drivers for all their models. http://doc.phonic.com/file/browse.php?sess=&parent=1132&expand=&order=na...
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
Lol, Billy Hyde fuck shit site. rofl XD I was more thinking about this Interface: FA-66. It's firewire. And it compatible with Win7. It has drivers for Win7 so it must. And I guess this interface works with Sonar as well!
A.M.P
The m-audio firewire solo seen here: http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Firewire-US35030-Audio-Interface/dp/B0006A... is 100% win7 compatible. They have the dirvers on their site. Cost: $193 Aus.$
This is also Win7 compatible: http://www.amazon.com/PreSonus-Inspire-Firewire-Recording-Interface/dp/B... if you follow the instructions in this forum: http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=7738 It'll be solid with no audio drop out recording at the 4ms latency setting. Cost: $111 Aus.$
The Roland (Edirol) FA-66 is $313.54 Aus.$ but is better than the PreSonus, but just as good as the M-Audio. Also the M-Audio interface will work with ProTools M-powered. ProTools is industry standard, so it'd be nice for you to have an audio interface that can be used with PT so you can upgrade to using protools in the future.
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
One question, could my XENYX802 Mix board connect up to the M-Audio, PreSonus or FA-66. Because, I still want to use my mix board.
A.M.P
What about the M-Audio ProFire 610. http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFire610.html
This is on the back of the device: http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/media_hqpics/Profire610-Back.jpg
Would my XENYX802 http://www.lachlach.pl/grafika/behringer/x802/802a.jpg connect up to the ProFire or any other device that you gave me links to?
A.M.P
You sure can! Its a mixer! It'll hook up to any audio interface. Run your mic into the mixer, then run the main outs on the mixer into the UNBALANCED inputs on your interface, then run your main out on the interface into the TAPE IN on the mixer. Press in the Tape To Control, and make sure the TAPE TO MIX BUTTON IS OFF. Run your phones out of the mixer! Voila! Now your mixer is set up to control the mic's audio.
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
Okay, thanks. Another question, do you I plug in my headphones into the mix board or the interface?
A.M.P
Also, another question, how would I connect up my mixboard to the UCA202?
A.M.P
yo purski if you get that audio interface itd be completely pointless to hook up your mic to that mixer you got.. all thatll do is degrade the sound quality.. itd sound better hooked direct to the interface.. if you worried about controlling the volume of your mic theres a volume knob for it right on the front of that thing not to mention a software mixer for more control. if you get that you might as well sell your mixing board... you wont need it anymore
Which Interface? Right now, I'm really looking at getting the FA-66, that's if I get any cash or start work.
A.M.P
I have a little software issue. I'm using Sonar 7 Producer Edition. At the start, the software keeps on doing a VST Scan every day! It's so annoying, does anybody know how to solve this issue?
A.M.P
any interface that has a mic input of its own should not have the mic run through a cheap mixer first. Itll degrade the quality, especially a low-grade behringer mixer. the thing your talking about getting has a mic input.. but if your on a budget look for one thats less expensive. cant help you with that sonar issue.. google it
Sorry Teddy, but I will have to respectfully disagree. A mixer may not always be needed, but it will not cause sound loss. Check this out: http://www.tweakheadz.com/choosing_a_mixer_for_your_studio.html Says it all right there. (Its actually a VERY informative site for recording, mixing and mastering in a home studio.) Behinger is quality on a budget. I mean its not the bees knees, but its 100x better than Phonics! lol! I even like Behringer over Lexicon! So don't be hatin' on my German engineering! lol!!!
Hey Adam. I've been meaning to ask this. Why firewire? I know it has a better bitrate and sample rate, but do you actually know what that means? I didn't truly understand until about 6-7 months ago. CD is 16-bit at 44.1. I'm going to tell you right now. You, me, and just about all of the populous of Earth will not be able to tell the difference between 16/44.1 and 24/96. Although 24/96 has 250 times the amount of audio data, its not even twice the quality of 16/44.1. Its explained here: http://www.tweakheadz.com/16_vs_24_bit_audio.htm You should strongly consider USB as well as firewire. Also the higer bit rate and sample rate recordings can take up more than 3 times the space as Cd quality. Also, there is a ton more USB than FireWire, and its usually much cheaper. There are also USB mixers with built in interfaces eliminating all the fuck shit confusion. Yamaha has the Audiogram 6, Behringer has the 1204, Makie's got one, Tascam has one, everyone has a usb powered mixer, and they are fan-fucking-tastic! Read up and think about it. Its better to plan this shit out to the very last detail so you can truly get the best bang for your buck. I'm about to get me some skype action going. I'd love to actually talk with you about this shit rather than this e-mail/comment crap. I'll have my skype up and running with webcam this saturday (your sunday. International date line and shit...) If you're willing to drop $300 on new equipment, I can get you looking in the right direction. M-Audio, Yamaha, TASCAM, Makie, etc... You know... the good stuff!
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
"A mixer or mixing console or mixing board all refer to the same thing: a device that allows you to balance, position, effect and equalize its different audio channels into a good sounding sonic image that we call a mix." from the site link Doc posted up.
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thats cool doc ryzl.. disagree all you want. I happen to have a behringer mixer ux-1222 to be exact... thats a slightly higher grade model then the one adam purski has... I know what im talking about seeing as ive personally heard these cheap mixers in action many times.... It very much degrades the quality of a mics signal everytime... when compared to connecting direct to my interface, its like running my voice through a pile of dogshit. waste of my time, i havent used it in over 2 years. need to sell it.. so.... who wants to buy it? lmao
behringers cheap stuff is not quality.. money down the drain.
To each his own. I also found that behringers need to be maintained more than some. Deoxit Gold spray in the knobs sliders and connection ports kept mine sounding sweet as. I personally would go for an AOI usb mixer with an audio interface built in, and the Yamaha Audiogram 6 would fit my (and most people doing home hip-hop recording's) needs and budget. The Yamaha interface is solid as any other usb interface at that level. I will say it blows away Behringers stuff and a lot of, if not all of, Lexicon's lower end stuff like the Lambda and the Alpha. and don't get me started on Phonics... MEH. Stay far away from Phonics, no matter how good a deal you think you're getting.
BTW Teddy, out of curiosity, what interface are you using these days? Maybe the reason I saw no difference is because my interface was also crap. I just thought of that. My interface was Behringer too. Could a been a culmination of shit! lol!!
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
lol.. im still using the same one i been using for years.. some line 6 shit.. theres only one vocal premamp worth anything on it only cause it actually pulls a flat response if its set right.. so i can do all the mixing with as clean a source as possible through live.. the other preamps on it add too much uneditable color or outright destroy the sound just like all the other cheap shit.. that one preamp though,, was like finding a diamond in a trach can.. fuck the presets.. that goes for any plugin or program.. bout to finally get some better equipment.. gonna be putting my toneport to rest for good
At school. In my VET Music Industry class. Where going to be making a recording studio! And all the gear my class had was out standing! It had "real" platform effects like compression gate, reverb and other stuff. Big ass mix board. A Mackie it says. We still need to unwrap all the gear. But I'm telling ya, complete awesomeness. I'm gonna be recording there, at my very own school.
You know. I'm thinking of getting just a mixer, that's digital, with a built in interface. I think that's better than connecting the whole thing up. Any mixer with a built in interface, with a cheap price. I need to save up!
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Yes Adam!! Come to the dark side! We have cookies!! May I recommend some things? A good firewire mixer will cost you over $500, more like $700 to be honest. I'm telling you that USB will be just fine for your purposes. Like this one: http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-MAC-PROFX8-LIST?SRC=D0407FG0HAMS0... I mean you were gonna drop $280 Amer. on an interface. Well this is less money and a mother fucking MACKIE!!!! As far as mixers go, you can't get much better than a Mackie! If that too rich for your blood, both Alesis and Yamaha have 6 and/or 8 track USB mixers for about $150-$175 Amer. But if you have that extra $50, go for the Mackie!
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
Track recorder all the way baby!!!!
Chu'ch!! But they be pricey! The good ones anyway. The only entry level one I've seen, that was worth a damn, was the Samson Zoom R16 seen here: http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=2009 Its a track recorder, a usb mixer, an audio interface, AND a control surface!! That's right, this will control your software mixer in almost any DAW. I know for a fact that it works with Sonar (read people doing so on a forum... I do extensive research), as long as you use ASIO4ALL as your asio driver, this thing will work perfectly. So that clears up Win7 compatability, because ASIO4ALL 2.10 works with Win7. (Samson released a new driver that most people report as working in Win7 32-bit. Also most people report that the mackie control midi drivers work in Win7 for mixer control) Its also able to run on batteries for field recording and mixing on the go, for almost 5 hours, but can only record at 44.1 not 48. $400 American, but 'I've seen 'em on sale for as low as 300. Good call on the track recorder Teddy! I almost forgot about this little puppy!
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!
I'll just go for the Samson R16. That would be better. One question, is the R16 compatible with Windows 7? If so, THIS BABY IS MINE! If i get the money tho... Then so long Behringer Bullshitty-Ma-Bob. Lol
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Totally! They released the win 7 driver last week! Yay samson! It works 100% with sonar too! Some still report the Samson ASIO driver not working, but that may have been the 1.10 driver. The new 1.2 driver seems to have all those problems fixed. Worst case scenario, you can use ASIO4ALL v2.10 with it, and it'll work perfect that way as well, but I think you should be fine with the Samson 1.2 driver. The midi control portion (using it to control your software mixer) is reported to be working 100% in Sonar with Win 7. If you get this thing and can't find the new driver, I have the link bookmarked for you.
Take two of these beats, and call me in the morning. Doctor's orders!