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mpd24

Hello everyone,
I installed my mpd24 and it was working fine until I went into the soft that goes with it ,I don't know exactly what I have done but now all the presets on the pad says NEW all the presets like BFD ,REASON etc....are gone .....
I have tried uninstalling the software and reinstalling it but it even got worst cos now the software won't work anymore ,it doesn't open>>>!
I feel like I messed it up ,how can I get it back to the way it was when I first install it ??
tried emailing akai but no reply
please help!
thanks


matt's picture

Hey audace, dam thats gotta be a pain.

What software did you get with your MPD24? There should be a way to reload the defaults back onto it whether you're using the old software Uniquest, or the newer Vyzex software...

There are the support files for the MPD24 here:
http://www.akaipro.com/supportos.php#MPD24

Including the MPD24 factory presets:
http://www.akaipro.com/software/OS/MPD24/MPD24_Factory%20Presets.zip

audace's picture

thanks for ur reply !
I am using the uniquest MPD24mac v.1.00 version
should I try to install a newer version ?,I see i can download it from the links u posted>

Blendsie's picture

Sorry to add another mpd24 problem but I dont know where else to ask!
I'm using a laptop with reason 4 and I cant get my mpd24 to work with it. I've tried it on a different set-up (desk top with delta 1010 soundcard) and it works fine, it just doesn't feel my laptop! Do I just need to get an audio interface for it to work or is it something more complex?? I thought it should just work anyway though cos its usb? Can some one advise me please? Its getting me vexxed! thanks a lot,
Blendsie

matt's picture

Audace - I would think that you could reload the factory presets just using your current Uniquest software. I'm pretty sure a couple of previous visitors to maketunes have successfully done that when they accidentally wiped their mpd24 presets....

I'll have a look around and see if I can write up a quick guide on how to reload the factory presets...

Blendsie - yeah while USB lets you plug it in, any midi controller will still need some sort of audio hardware to handle input/output of midi signals and sounds. The laptop most probably has "onboard" audio, which is a low powered system that lets you listen to mp3s, hear movies played on your laptop etc, but is not always capable of letting musicians play a midi controller and hear the notes of your drum machine sampler or synth instantly. In some cases it won't work at all on such a system.

Most people running laptop studios use an external USB audio/midi interface, or an external firewire audio/midi interface.

Do you happen to know what sort of internal laptop audio hardware you have? It may be a usable sort?

audace's picture

thanks! I am going to have a look around.

matt's picture

Hey audace - have you tried this process of reloading MPD24 factory presets?

I'm pretty sure thats how other people have successfully done it? You might like to try that?

audace's picture

thanks a lot for that ,I am going to try that
I'll let u know how it goes

matt's picture

Yup do let me know, and perhaps I can make an expanded version of that guide with screenshots etc to help others in the same position

audace's picture

ok so,
I couldn't get the uniquest soft to work so ,i installed the Vyzex soft which is working fine so far.
one problem ,when i go to file>open>akaiproMD24, I can't open the factory presets.bnk file that I downloaded from the akai website ,the file is shaded ,it won't let me select it
there is a factory.SQS file in the folder and when i load it up it only loads the first factory preset which is BFDlite ,I still don't have the other presets ex: REASON ,LIVE etc.......

matt's picture

Hmmm ok , oh I should clarify that in the Uniquest software when I open it up, I went FILE > OPEN, and it was at this location that I found the factory bank presets
Akai Pro \ MPD24 \ MQData \ MPD24 \ Factory Bank.Bnk

In anycase, it looks like I might need to install the Vyzex software and give that a try, as I've never used that one so don't know what to suggest you try.

Just out of interest, when you're browsing to open that "Factory Bank.Bnk" file, maybe you need to make sure you've got the right option selected under "Files of Type" in the file browser? I just noticed that the Factory Bank file is visible in the Uniquest file browser, when its set to MQ Data File Type, but if I switch it to MQ Set File Type, it vanishes. Just a thought...

I want to get this figured out one way or another so make sure you let me know if you find a way, and I'll add it as a guide on maketunes. I'll try installing that software soon too and give it a shot.

Also, how did you manage to erase the presets off the mpd24? I'd like to erase mine so I can test out how to load the defaults :) But I can't see how to zap them?

audace's picture

allright ,
I think u are using a pc right?
cos I am using a mac and I can't see the 'files of type ' in the browser
I can't work it out ,in the folder there is also a DEFAULT.SQC and a DEFAULT.SQ9 file in the folder ,same as the factorypresets.bnk file, they can't be opened ....
when i click on the files by themselves on the folder it says 'Files with SQG extensions need to be converted to SQS before they will load''
don't know what it means>.....

to erase the presets ,I just went into the uniquest and messed it up ,so I wouldn't recommend that.....

matt's picture

Ahah! Oops sorry about that, I meant to ask whether you happened to be using a Mac! It slipped my mind.

Yeah I'd stay away from most of those other files, I'm sure its just the "Factory Bank.Bnk" file which you're needing...

Under the File menu, is there another option specific to opening Preset banks? Something like "Load Preset..." or something, rather than just going to the generic "File > Open"? I'm guessing you would have noticed it if there was, but thought I'd mention it just in case...

I'd better install this Vyzex software...

audace's picture

no worries ,
there isn't any other option to open presets banks >>>>

matt's picture

Ok - I'm just trying out the Vyzex software now, I'll let you know what happens :)

matt's picture

Ok, I think I have it...

Forget about the Factory Bank file - that seems to only be for the Uniquest software... handy of Akai not to mention that on their website!

So, the factory set you're needing is actually already in the Vyzex install directory.

You should just be able to open Vyzex, it autodetects your MPD, and then go to FILE > OPEN, and select "Factory SET.SQS". Open that file, and it is now loaded into the Vyzex program. Now all we need to do is send it to the MPD24...

To send the factory defaults to the MPD, now click the Vyzex EDITOR MODES button labelled DATA (you're probably still on PRESET mode).

Then hit the PUT SET button ... and in about 10 seconds it should be transfered to your mpd...

Does that work for you? Seemed to work for me on my pc...

audace's picture

Allright thanks !
I will give a try when I get home

matt's picture

Sweet, let me know if that works, and I'll put this into a proper guide format for future visitors.

audace's picture

IT WORKED !!!!
thanks a lot for ur help matt !!!
I am glad I come to this forum ,I will be back i am sure with more questions about the MPD24 .....

matt's picture

Thats good to hear - glad we got there in the end ;)

Please feel free to post further forum topics if you have more questions, and don't forget to spread the word about maketunes.com!

Blendsie's picture

Nice one matt, cheers man. I think I'm gonna get an E-mu 0202 its about time a got an interface! I'll let you know how it goes. Not sure about internal audio hardware- its just a basic pc lap-top, says something about Realtek is this what you mean?
thanks again

matt's picture

Yup Blendsie - Realtek is one of the common onboard audio chips... they're not usually up to the task of being used in a studio/recording/production environment.

Sounds like you're on the right track, getting an audio/midi interface is a good move for any musician working with a computer/laptop.

Hmm, I just checked out that Emu 0202 - you're aware that it doesn't appear to have midi ins/outs? The MPD24 shouldn't be effected, as you're plugging it in via USB.... but it may be a drawback if in the future you're wanting to plug in a new midi keyboard to it using a midi cable, if you don't want to use that with USB for whatever reason. It used to be a big issue, but for some people mainly working with software studios, and one or two USB plugged midi controllers (such as the mpd24), then its not always an issue anymore... just thought I'd mention it in case you missed that detail.

melektrik's picture

I gotta nice little bundle . I have a nice external sound card that plus into the USB. The bundle was called TNT bundle that included a nice Mic and the external sound card along with the software Cubase.
I paid 250$ which I found was really reasonable. May be you could find it online somewhere. I bought it at Steve's Music but this a Canadian store. There's one in Ottawa and another one located in Montreal if you ever like coming to Canada.

Thanks
Mel.

Blendsie's picture

Yo matt! still no luck with the mpd24. I got a lexicon alpha the other day and thought this would solve the problem but it doesn't.With Reason 4.0 in edit>preferences>keyboards and control surfaces it only says "not selected" on the in port when I add the mpd24. I have switched the audio card driver to the lexicon but it still wont find the mpd. Do you have any ideas of what I should do? thanks, Bl

matt's picture

Hi Blendsie - well the first thing I notice when checking out the Lexicon Alpha, is that appears to be an audio interface, not a midi/audio interface. But even so, I suppose that if you've plugged in your MPD24 using USB to your computer, that might still work? But for example, a friend of mine is having issues with his Creative soundcards MIDI port after installing new drivers - and so MIDI devices can no longer be used, and so now he cannot select his midi keyboard in Reason (it has a red cross in that menu you mentioned). However as yours is via USB I *think* that should get around it?

I don't know whether with Reason 4 you still have to install the Akai Reason Remote files like you did with Reason 3? Have you got the Reason Remote files installed?
http://www.akaipro.com/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1122/tt/5

Blendsie's picture

I will try installing the remote files again then. Even though the alpha has no midi ports it is still a better sound card than my previous one and i thought this should eliminate any problems i was having with my realtek one. When I go to control panel>sound and audio devices>properties I cannot change the sound playback or MIDI music playback to the Lexicon alpha, it just has realtek HD as the default device. Could it be something to do with this? Would getting a different sound card help? Thanks for the help dude, will keep you posted. peace

Blendsie's picture

Na, no luck with installing the remote files again. I think its my Midi in and out ports causing the problem but I dunno how to reconfigure them.

matt's picture

Yeah thats kinda what I was concerned about with that Lexicon Alpha. The lack of midi input plugs isn't the big problem, as obviously you can still plug in the mpd24 using the USB plug on your pc, but I'm wondering whether the Alpha is actually capable of processing the midi data at all? I just don't know, I've only ever dealt with audio/midi interfaces...

Personally, what ever the case with those specifics, I think that someone involved in computer-based music creation would be best off getting an audio/midi capable interface - so that they're able to easily communicate with external midi equipment in the future, either in or out. To me it seems like the only reason to get an audio only interface would be someone such as a guitarist who purely wants to record his guitar playing onto his computer?

Blendsie's picture

Yeah I agree with you. I've exchanged it for an Alesis I/O which should be here soon then I think I'll finally get this shit going! thanks still

Blendsie's picture

Yeah, got the alesis io 2 usb interface now but still can't get the mpd24 to work. The io works fine as a sound card but still can't configure the mpd in edit>preferences. Don't have a fuckin clue anymore!!

matt's picture

Oh man! Hey what version of windows is your laptop running by the way?

Also, have you ever had a logitech USB webcam connected to the laptop?

Blendsie's picture

Alesis doesnt help either but is a great i/o device. Am using windows xp and dont hve a webcam

mrslick's picture

How do I use the mpd 24 with acid pro 4.0. Its only playing audible synths. I can't figure it out. Can anyone help me???

matt's picture

Audible synths? Is this mpd24 your only midi controller? Are you familiar with the theory of how a midi controller works?

I use Acid Pro 6, and presumably 4 is similar regarding midi controller setup.

Make sure OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > MIDI menu is setup ok, with USB DEVICE etc ticked. That enables the input of midi data.

I also have OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > EXTERNAL CONTROL AND AUTOMATION menu.... do you see that menu too? I have added a GENERIC CONTROL, which is my mpd24. You may also then need to double-click your GENERIC CONTROL entry which should now be showing under the heading "Active Control Devices".

Make sure under MIDI INPUT dropdown box at the bottom, you have selected USB DEVICE. (Which is the mpd24 obviously).

Once you've got your mpd24 able to send Acid Pro midi data, then you just need to assign whichever VST instrument you want it to control. Let me know if you're at that stage already and we'll take it from there.

Hope that helps.

mrslick's picture

I am not familiar with midi, and yes it is the only midi controller, but I have other equipment that is midi capable. I have the mc303 groovebox and yamaha psr 303 keyboard. I trieed hooking up the mpd24 and the only sound it is playing is the keyboard. I will try what you told me and I will let you know. Thank you.

mrslick's picture

How come I cannot hear any of the preset loops on my mpdf24??? I was just wondering if anyone can help me with this.

matt's picture

The MPD24 is a midi controller, it sends midi signals to samples/vst instruments located on your computer. It doesn't contain its own loops. The presets are configurations for specific programs, eg Battery, or Reason, which make it nicer to use your MPD24 with those programs (eg the pads and faders control the sorts of things you want to control in those programs).

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