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Musician's block, how do you get through it?

Ok, so for weeks or even months on end, you've produced song after song. Everything is going great until, your mind goes blank!!! Suddenly nothing sounds good to you, and you're uninspired mind is left spiraling into frustration. How do you get through this? What methods do you use in order to inspire yourself once more?


DarkZephyr23's picture

Ok, since I posted this forum, I'll start it off. When I'm stuck in a rut known as "Musician's Block," there are a couple ways I utilize in order to get back in the game. Method 1) Take a break from producing music for a while, and just listen to others' works. I play video games, or watch movies, to take my mind off of the frustration. And, after a few days or so, my mind now refreshed, is ready to start once more. Method 2) This one I use more often. If I'm stuck, I'll just open up FL Studio 8, and start making beats. I keep at it until a melody surrounds the beat, ultimately leading to a nice one minute song. Then, I go back to my previous project and start up where I left off.

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King Dattoli's picture

maybe u shouldnt make 30 songs a night and post them on here wasteing peoples time, and make 1 beat over 3 or 4 days accually finish the beat then you will get real feedback instead of people being nice to u , cause your nice to them , that came out rude but honesty is the best policy right ?

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King Dattoli's picture

i didnt write that to affend u it was to help , in my opion theres no such thing as writers block or beat makers block

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DarkZephyr23's picture

First off, I don't make 30 songs a night. I'm lucky if I finish 2. Most of the stuff I put on here is old, and never got any feedback on myspace, hence the reason I'm here. Second off, maybe I enjoy others' music, hence the reason I'll "be nice to them" and compliment it. I'm sorry you think my music is a waste of your time. But, don't think that you're speaking for everyone. I'm not trying to be like other musicians on here. I'm not trying to be hip hop or trip hop, or whatever. My stuff is soundtrack that's what I do, that's what I want to make a living doing. If you've got a problem with my tunes, then don't listen to them. You don't need to come on here and belittle me, like I don't know anything. If I want to post 100 songs a night, so what? It's not hurting you. Everyone that comments my stuff genuinely enjoys it. They're not just "being nice." as you so kindly put.

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DarkZephyr23's picture

Musician's block is strictly mental bro. I know this. Everyone has their own perception of it. Some people believe, and experience it, others don't believe and don't experience it. It all depends on the individual. I posted this forum to see if anyone else has experienced this and how they get through it. That was the wrong approach bro, seriously. I was actually offended by that.

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King Dattoli's picture

ok see i hear your beats most of the time and they dont sound finish , i guess cause there 2 minute sound tracks i didnt know that. trust me man makein one real nice beat or sound track is way more fulfilling then makein 2 a night, i didnt mean 30 earlier lol just aggzarated that. my bad man, and im not belittleing u , believe me bro im not no better then anyone else on this site , lol u were offended by that , r u serious , y man i seriously was tryin ta help u , i thought u needed some advice , i guess not lol , hopefully you will take this as motivation and make some nice ass tracks bro, dont be affended by me , no reason to be, i'm sorry for that didnt think u would take that like that

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King Dattoli's picture

ur a better beat maker then i might have givein you credit with that first comment

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DarkZephyr23's picture

lol I see that now bro. My bad, just a misunderstanding. I know my stuff doesn't sound like a professionally done soundtrack.....yet. I've still got a ton to learn, and I'm still learning. I'm only able to do 2 songs a day if I'm really inspired. That's not everyday either. I've got projects saved on my computer that have been there for months....literally months!!! I know the songs are pretty short, you know the little 2 minute runs. That's because I still need to learn how to expand it more. Part of the problem is hardware issues. My computer can only run a few VST's at a time before the memory gets used up. I hear the song in my head, and how I want it to sound, but it can reach that capacity with this system. So I just make due with what I have. Which, in my opinion, isn't that bad. Sorry for earlier man. I didn't realize you were trying to help. lol

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DarkZephyr23's picture

lol Thanks bro. I'm not that good though. I've still got plenty more to learn. I try though. I honestly think it's harder to make a melody that fits the beat, rather than the beat itself.

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King Dattoli's picture

its kool man , i use to make beats and my old computer was like that , u have to export the song and listen to it on a media player, then go back and fix the beat , that shit sux man , im so glad i got a new comp in april and when i record my voice now shits so smooth , i dont make beats that offten no more because i dont have the paichence to make them , plus rap comes so much more naturally to me .

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King Dattoli's picture

some people make the melody first then the drums, i always did the drums first ,but im not good at makein beats , so i would make the melody first , what program do u use

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DarkZephyr23's picture

LOL True that, bro. That shit does suck!! Well, I use two different programs. FL Studio 8. But that's mainly as a brainstorming program, just to get ideas moving. I use Magix Music Maker 12 Deluxe as my main program. It has the record MIDI function, and has a simple interface. I just drop a VST in the grid, load an instrument, and play away. The drums are done with the mouse though. It's hard to do a drum beat with a keyboard. I noticed that pretty quick lol I use the East West Quantum Leap Complete Composer's Collection as my instrument bundle. It's got everything in there.

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King Dattoli's picture

yeah drums r hard to do on a keyboard but u should try to learn, sounds real natural after it becomes second nature, i would practice that if u do ever have beat makers block, its not always gonna sound perfect but real drummers arent machines , seriously my advice practice that , practice any weaknesses all the down time u have , from makein beats

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Sonya's picture

He does makes some nice tracks. Hop hop isn't the only shit out there. Certainly not the best out in my opinion. Excuse KD, he is the ass of maketunes. He always acts like his shit don't stink, insulting everyone, and then plays the nice guy, trying to kiss ass when he realizes that not everyone will take his shit. Learn how to spell, get some schooling before you talk shit KD. You are the only person on here who doesn't think you are an ass. You will one day make it big, KD. I am going to laugh at what happens after that!

Spell check for you, KD:
u=you
r=are
aggzarated-exaggerated
affend=offend
not no better = Double negatives cancel each other out, it should be I am not any better.
y=why
i= I, should always be a capital letter.
dont be affended by me , no reason to be, i'm sorry for that didnt think u would take that like that= again, affended-offended. Didnt should have an apostrophe between the the n and t. How else was he suppose to take that?
Also, sentences always begin with a capital letter.
Questions always end with a question mark.
makein= making
arent= An apostrophe is needed between the n and t.
givein- giving
paichence = patience

Dark Zephyr23, a lot of people do what you do when facing that block. I personally feel that is what most do, actually. I , for one, think you have great music. All the more power to you if you can come out with that many great songs in a day. Everyone starts somewhere, and you are doing wonderful so far! Please don't ever think you are wasting anyone's time. You certainly are not wasting mine.

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A-Z Production's picture

go to vacation with the person you love the most come back after 2 months you'll start making hits again

that is the time when a man gotta rest,take it easy,gain some strength and after that it will be a great come back

CapricornOne's picture

I work through it. I'll just keep makin' stuff even if it sounds like shit to me at the time. I have at least 10 unfinished tracks at any given moment. If I don't like the way something is coming along, I just save it as is, then move on to another track. I keep doing this, for as long as it takes, until i have something worthy. If after a few days, I still have nothing, that's when I stop and start looking for more sounds, samples, and other forms of inspiration. I will start digging deep into all musical genres, looking for that next possible "new sound". The last thing I want to do, is to hear what everyone else in "The Biz" is doing. I find all that does is make things worse. It tends to make my productions stagnant, where I feel they will never stand out. The other thing is, I now have all these half finished and/or raw tracks. I go back periodically and go over them. You'll be amazed at what you have in your stock piles. You just forget about them for a while, and "rediscover" some diamonds in the rough. Give 'em a polish! Fresh ears on old material, if ya know what I mean. I just did this. I'm working on the last little details of some of these. They're still not the best, but they're progress and that's all we can really hope and strive for. Perfection is something to strive to... but never easily achieved. Always think, no matter how good you are, no matter how far you come, there's always someone further along and better than you. That's what keeps me going.

As for KD... He's the Dr. House of MakeTunes. He's knows his shit when it comes to overall production. Just listen to his tracks... They're damn near radio ready! The thing is, he shoots from the hip. You may not like how he puts things, or what he's actually saying, but after all is said, there's that line of truth behind what he's said. Pure, unmitigated, horrible truth. We all hate to admit it, but it helps in the end. He makes you think about shit. Sometimes pissing someone off is the best way to get them to help themselves. It forces a reaction. You're cool in my book KD! I look for that asshole who will tell it like it is, and never hold back. Sure you've said some things that riled me up, but it just made me look at stuff differently. Dr. Dattoli, Tuesdays on Fox.

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poppntagz's picture

I listen to hit song instrumentals and and try to disect the track, and try the techniques that the producer used, or just play xbox until i think of somethin. Another way i try to get out of the block is listen to old music and sample away.

King Dattoli's picture

lol thanx cap1 , and sonya i will consalute with you before i spell anything. Some of what u sayed wasnoted trew i think i is asshole . i be criticicialll 2 poelpe bcouse i thinkk theyy can takkes it. and i doesnt justed listinen ta hop hop . i listinen ta all kindz of muzik . i beleev u shuld tellz popele hows ya feeeel . u right i no apoligezes 2 no one no more . no matter wut i sayz 2 dem . dey b shuld b ablez 2 takes it erytimeesz , u berry smarter den mee i no dat nows . i justed thinked i wases bing honested 2 poelpe , can u pweze give mee spelning cheks again.

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i thinked i is asshole lol

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Teddy Brazello's picture

I usually dont get writer block... I also dont try to make songs everyday either.. It never works good if your trying to make a new song everyday.. I always just wait for the songs to come to me in my head.. I usually have a song fully constructed in my head before I start putting it together on the program.. Forcing yourself to make songs is bad.. Waiting it out it better..

lol.. I think tom failed english class. Spelling really doesnt matter as long as you get your point across. That first post tom put was quite a dick move in my opinion.. All zepher wanted to no was about writers block and getting through it. Didnt make sense why tom had so much hostility towards his question and it was somewhat off topic but whatever. In toms sense he just wants to help people get better. He always comes of rude as fuck though

Sonya's picture

I hear you KD. I didn't offend you, did I? LMAO! Honesty is the best poicy, right? Maybe I came off too harsh. It's all good KD. Hahahaha...

The Sole's picture

I think that Dark Zephyr made the forum to help others out. He obviously isn't stuck in a rut because he is coming out with great tracks right now. Tracks that sound like tracks from movies and aren't missing anything. I believe he made the forum to HELP others out who might go through what he already has gone through.

King Dattoli's picture

no one offends me ever , I thought it was funny what you said . If I let everyone offend me I would have had a heart attach a long time ago. Cause I am way to harsh on people. I 'm surprised the people closest to me haven't killed me yet . I make fun of them the most .

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Sonya's picture

Oops! Let me spell check my drunk self. Hip-hop, not hop hop. And policy, not poicy. I will spell check that entire paragraph for you, it is just going to take time. I will get back to you though, so you may learn something from all this. I am just trying to help you bro. It is better to come up with one great, correctly spelled comment, than to get out thirty, poorly written comments. Do you understand? It sounds better when you take the time to spell check and to notice your tone in writing. It is an art. You have to be sure to perfect it. I hope you understand and take no offense.

matt's picture

Hey DarkZephyr, thats a great question to post - a topic probably familiar to all musicians at some time. I know what you were actually meaning about being able to create and create and create over a long period of time, and then hitting the creative wall. KD seemed to go off on some whole tangent of his own there. The rest of us know what you're talking about though lol.

Its a tricky one, I think artists and musicians each would deal with it in a different way. Important to remember in my opinion is that if someone has a creative core to them, I believe it stays with you for ever, and so the musician struggling shouldn't try and force the issue - maybe go and do something else, eg focus on another part of your life that you enjoy, and often inspiration might naturally sneak back into your head from some other aspect of life. Either that, or after a period of inactive creativity, the urge to make something will bubble to the top by itself, and you'll find that hunger to make something gives you that musical energy back.

Also, I've found often the highs AND lows of life can inspire, in different ways, so sometimes I guess concentrating on "living life" for a bit, can fire up the creative inspiration again too.

The Sole's picture

Yeah, and also playing Half Life 2 plus all the expansion packs (which is about 32 years off your life)and then going back to making music works well. After destroying so much, and then finishing it, it only seems natural to create like a son of a gun.

DarkZephyr23's picture

All great methods, in my opinion. I agree with you Matt. A creative core does stay with you, no matter what. And yes, I merely wanted to see how others get through this problem. I wasn't expecting the hostility but it's all good.

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DarkZephyr23's picture

LOL Sole, I couldn't agree with you more, bro. I love Half Life!!!!

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Sonya's picture

I always took a break, listened to great some great shit on maketunes, and eventually found something that inspired me. Always worked well for me.

DarkZephyr23's picture

You know? I've found a lot of inspiration from maketunes. I mean, there's so much raw talent on this site!!!

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EUGOD's picture

SONYA YOU ARE SICK , HAA HAA HAAA HAAA , GOOD ONE SONYA , GOOD ONE

Sonya's picture

Eugod, you are my boy! You maketuners are still my family and I am damn proud to show it!!

King Dattoli's picture

why is your nick name butters , zephor , are we gonna see professor chaos?????????????????

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poppntagz's picture

lol kd

King Dattoli's picture

poppntags T.I.M.E.$ need ta work with u homie, every beat i hear from you is top notch man, talk to me bout that

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DarkZephyr23's picture

You couldn't resist could you, KD? No, no, The "King", doesn't pass up any opportunities to be a little "rooster-fish." It's ok though, it's alright. No big deal. Butterz is a BAMF.

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DJ Caesar's picture

This forum was supposed to host discussion about blank heads, now it's looking like a rumble arena...
When I get a blank head, I back off for a day or two, and then see some tutorials to get some new ideas. Tutorials always help, there are plenty of them on youtube and other sites.
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King Dattoli's picture

yeah i agree , i still think they should have picked butters instead of tweet on south park as there forth freind, quess it dont matter now , cause kenny is back

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The Sole's picture

Yeah, until he gets killed by like the NEXT episode and every episode thereafter! You bastards! You killed Kenny!

King Dattoli's picture

lol yeah when ever the next episode is , they are some punks for splitin the seaon up , y dont they just make a full season like all the other shows instead of makin people wait 6 month to see the second half

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turned out ta be a pretty good forum zepher23

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MarCoast Beats.'s picture

yea i agree with what capricorn said waaaaay up there at the top of this forum, i usually find more samples for inspiration alone... but i haven't been doin that recently so I just use the same samples, but in different forms, for example, it sounds different in the granulizer than in the regular sampler!

or what i do on a regular is scroll through samples at high speeds and whichever catches my attention is the one i go back to and play around with; i just find ways of keepin things fresh basically...

or you can take a sample in fl and play around with the filter's lfos and see what pops out

what i've been doing lately is taking a synth on fl, and going to randomize to see what I come up with, then if its close to something i like, I tweak it more and more and save presets as I go... or whenever i'm finished either one

but that's all i can think of for now, if i think of something else ill make sure to post it!

wait, if you have some songs you like, there has to be a little piece of it you can listen to over and over again, so why not sample it?! but don't use it as it is, mess it up completely and see what comes out of it!
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IngridTornado's picture

If you have a "block", just have a break I find. Good time to listen to other people's stuff. Also listen to some genres you don't usually listen to - maybe some real old stuff too.

Another thing I do to compose tunes, is get some existing music (anything) have it turned down real low so you can only just hear something in your headphones, but you can't make it out what it is, close your eyes and the "noise" will morph into all these different tunes, riffs, beats etc that you can use. It may just be my zany brain, but may work for others too!

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Lorenzo Orduno's picture

Loj Digitainment

That happen to me, what I did was I got some decent rest, you need time to clear your mind. It makes sense, because you have a lot of stuff running in your head, beats, melodies, lyrics, etc. you need to clear your mind. A good diet, eat a lot of fruits and veggies. And for focus eat sea food. After 2 weeks , to a month you will be able to produce. When I got writer's block, I did just that. and everything was fine. I also stop drinking sodas. I drink teas. juices, water.

Teddy Brazello's picture

lol, what?! A healthy diet.. You cant be serious. I would never do that or suggest it.. Heres a better one smoke a fat ass blunt and play with your keyboard or program. Thatll usually get it

And ingrid I know exactly what your talking about. Though I never incorperated any of that into any songs I hear it all the time.. Could be walking towards a room with music playing. Sounds like a completly different song until I can actually hear the song at a normal level.

Teddy Brazello's picture

I gotta get into the healthy diet comment a little more cause its so funny.. almost all of the most thought of legendary musicians were drug addicts. I doubt they had good eating habits unless of course they were potheads (still not healthy eating though). Some of them were so strung out on drugs they probably rarely ate anything. I dont suggest massive drug abuse to anybody but your more likely to come up with a better song if you shot up some heroin than if you ate a good mix of fruits and veggies...lol

MarCoast Beats.'s picture

yea teddy a big ol fat one sounds real good right now, but we been dry since the damn hurricane [ike] hit houston but i still been makin it happen!!

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The Sole's picture

I agree with you Teddy, but I have heard things similar to what Lorenzo said about eating seafood and increasing the thinking ability as a result. I don't know if that same token thought would/could be directed towards making music though. I believe the idea is that seafood has proteins in it that give nutrients that affect the brain to a healthy thinking extreme. The whole 'using to make music angle' is beyond me. Damn! Now I can't think! Where's that blunt?! ;0)

Lorenzo Orduno's picture

Look I had to change my eating habits, not related to my music at all. Around 2004 I had to do a dramatic change in my lifestyle, because I was diagnosed with Kidney Failure. So I had to change my diet, for the sake of my life. Around 4 or 5 months before I went into the Hospital for 3 weeks, I was on a writers block, I don't know why but I couldn't write nothing, no ideas, my mind would go blank. About a month out of the hospital, I started tapping out little ideas on the piano(keyboard). I noticed that I was more clear minded when I sat by the keyboard I know it had to do with me dramatically changing my diet, and got a lot of rest . I noticed that I feel better, even at the fact I still have kidney failure, I think more clearly, so ideas come to mind like before. I'm not saying this is the only way, but this is a pretty effective alternative.

King Dattoli's picture

Sorry to hear about the kidney failure , I'm sure if you would have said that at first everyone would have understood

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Lorenzo Orduno's picture

Loj Digitainment
It's okay, no worries, I should have said something about that. But out of that experience That's what I learned, and noticed, about myself. I created a little over a dozen full songs, and ideas. It's something that's worth a try. I little something before I go, I've been sick for a little over 4 yrs, And I realize how much junk we put in our bodies. I know greats like Hendrix, Marley, and the sort did write some good, even great stuff, at the same time they where hard time druggies, or potheads. That goes back to that saying "there's more than one way to skin a cat" the way I interpret that is To get to an outcome, there is a more ways then one. I'm not trying to preach or anythingI chose to do it this way. But it's all good.

Teddy Brazello's picture

damn man.. that sucked you had to go through all that. Traumatic experiences and life or death situations usually help to bring out artistic creativity. Kidney failure aint no joke. I got a stab wound that almost punctured my kidney when it happened, missed it by a couple cm... good thing it didnt cause I would be dead. That was a shitty trip to the hospital. I dont really consider what your doing preaching. To each his own. Your entitled to your opinion. I've just never heard a musician talk about eating healthy as a advantage to their creativity.

Lorenzo Orduno's picture

I kid you NOT it works!! Try it out for a month or two, and you'll see the difference .make sure you make some time to clear your head, actually you don't have anything to lose, think about it. God bless, all !!

MarCoast Beats.'s picture

yea i wanna start juicing because i hate eating vegetables, but would rather mix em with fruit juices to get better taste and more nutrients

and damn zephyr this is a long post lol

i can't even get past 10 comments

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CapricornOne's picture

mmmm hmmm, Teddy... blunts work very well... my bong loaded with some high grade Vermont outdoor works a whole lot better... not to say I ain't smoking a blunt right now... cuz I am. The "herbal pleasures" should never be thought to make one self creative, it just helps the creative mind clear out the unwanted to allow for a better connection to the source.

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MarCoast Beats.'s picture

very well worded capricorn lol

say no to drugs kids... eat thc brownies!

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The Sole's picture

FN druggies! Hey hun? Are you gonna hit that? It's a pipe, not a mic!

matt's picture

Lorenzo I think is on to something with the cleaning up of diet and lifestyle, it can do really good things for mind body and soul in my opinion. And I think this can flow through to such things as your creative process.

In a way, I think often what is needed is something which connects you to the Muse, whatever that may be at your current point of your life - for some people it might be isolation from distraction, for others it might be being surrounded by as much life-chaos as possible, for others puffing on some mary-J is what lets them hear their Muse...

Its certainly not a cut-n-dried, "one approach suits everybody" type of thing in my opinion. And that's fine, variety in every way is one of the greatest aspects of creativity - long may it continue!

Some good thoughts from a bunch of people in here.

misko's picture

well never know it had a name, but i know what it feels like....what i do, i also played half life, but in 32 day's and gta san andreas with some cheats and blast some punks and riding to town with kejah west on the radio :D but i also listen to other peoples work or old skool music like jimi hendriks or beatles. the weird thing is that is has nothing to do with my genre, but it give me harmony and peace in my head. so i let go and after a week i cant wait to go home after work and jam on my pc. and somethimes i just make beginnings, so after a week i got 30 beginnings and when im on fire i can choose the one i like the most and work on it
so somethimes its good to lay back on let it go and somethimes is good to continu and keep on going till the drive is back..but i think its differant for every person. and for me also works is a bottle of fine vodka and a bag of weed(yeh im from holland) then it go's by it self. but i think the main thing is...dont force it to much and dont compere your self with great/other artist, cause that kills u. just do your thing and dont do it for the money and fame, but with the passion!!

MarCoast Beats.'s picture

ok so i had the street fighter ryu melody JAMMED, STUCK, PACKED DOWN, whatever you wanna call it, in my head, and just couldn't get it out... but I suck at playin keyboard...

so you know what i did?

I found the MIDI file online and downloaded it!!

so I'm probably gonna take a while making the whole beat, but besides that, I got the melody and bassline together from the MIDI file..

this is gonna be a definite masterpiece!! i can't wait to finish.. i think it's gonna take me a couple of weeks or so... but it has to be perfect.. gotta get all the instruments right..

and for those of you who don't know what that ryu song sounds like, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltPcbnO_NWs

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