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Question about new sound card

I got a new m-audio Audiophile 2496 and I've installed the driver from the website and everything works fine but the buffer length in fruityloops is still high which causes a problem. As you guys know, the higher the buffer length, the interface gets laggy. That is a huge problem for me because I recently bought a midi keyboard and I need the keys to respond quick enough in fruityloops but I can't do that with the high buffer length, if i do lower the length, the tracks im working on start to crackle, and sound extremely different, i thought buying a new sound card would help but i guess not? or am i doing something wrong? please help :) thanks guys


matt's picture

Hey Brian, did you select "M-AUDIO ASIO" in the FL audio preferences page? How many "ms" does it say your latency is?

matt's picture

Heres what my M-Audio powered fl studio audio settings looked like
http://www.maketunes.com/images/flstudio-audio-settings

Brianmed's picture

I chose the M-Audio ASIO, and it says 5ms, yea it does work nice with my midi keyboard, but...the track i was working on a few months ago now sounds like crap, which btw while i was making this track, the buffer length was set high and i was using a sound card my factory computer came with, it sounds great, no crackles or pops or anything. But later on I decided to buy a midi keyboard to make it alot easier for me to create melodies and such, so i thought i'd buy a decent sound card with it cause, obviously i wont be able to play my with the keyboard with the buffer set that high, it's just too much delay. Maybe I just made my track too busy with all the automations and such lol?

mortalengines's picture

Oh...how up to date are your drivers? I am surprised you are having midi latency issues...usually it is only audio...I have had real good luck even with M-audio's midi only cables and have noticed NO latency with my little Oxygen 8. Make sure you have the most up to date drivers for both Fruity and the 2496....I bought an Apogee Duet that worked like shit until I downloaded the most up to date drivers. Also you may want to play around with your midi in options under preferences...Make sure that you are using the midi drivers that came with your keyboard...not necessarily your soundcards drivers. I really don't know much about using midi in a PC environment....and this is not a dis to PC users either...it's just that when I bought my little midi keyboard I didn't even have to load drivers: Mac's OS is already USB "class compliant" which means that your computer recognizes whatever you plug into its usb port. The same thing worked when I was using a Mackie Onyx....it got a little more complicated with the Apogee. The most recent Macs can have their hard drives partitioned and you can install a Windows OS and run all the Windows based programs your little heart desires. Not a bad deal considering that a Mac Mini runs about 500 bucks to start. Just throwing it out there...this is not meant to be a lecture or anything. Only that I have few to no problems at all since I bought mine.

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Brianmed's picture

hmm, im pretty sure the keyboard and sound card is up to date since the driver cds it came with didn't work, so i had to get the most recent one from the website, as for fruity loops, it might be that, cause i don't i have updated it since i got it.

mortalengines's picture

Yeah...give that a go....good luck....it's gotta be something pretty simple.

heegs's picture

A small buffer-size will only cause crackling or problems if you're system and/or FL's DSP can't cope, what's your CPU usage like if you play the track at low-latency with a small buffer...?

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Brianmed's picture

Uhh, I have no idea lol, how do I check for that?

heegs's picture

For CPU, start the Windows taskmanager (either using Ctrl+Alt+Del or righ-clicking on your menubar and selecting it), click on the performance tab and you'll get a graph of your CPU useage...not sure if FL has a way of checking it's own performance, I never use it myself.
In general 256 is a rather small buffer size...if you go up to 768 or 1024 you should still be below the 20ms latency and that way you can check if buffer size really is the problem here..

H

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